For these who select to bypass secure boot. If the ISO file name is too long to displayed completely. So I think that also means Ventoy will definitely impossible to be a shim provider. I'll try looking into the changelog on the deb package and see if The worst part is, at the NSA level, this is peanuts to implement, and it certainly doesn't require teams of coders or mathematicians trying to figure out a flaw or vulnerability. Besides, I'm considering that: WinPE10_8_Sergei_Strelec_x86_x64_2019.12.28_English.iso BOOT but Custom launcher cannot open custom path and unable access to special apps. You can copy several ISO files at a time, and Ventoy will offer a boot menu where you can select them. This means current is Legacy BIOS mode. It means that the secure boot solution doesn't work with your machine, so you need to turn off the option, and disable secure boot in the BIOS. for the suggestions. @ValdikSS, I'm afraid I am fairly busy right now and, technically for me, investing time on this can be seen as going towards helping a "competing" product (since I am the creator of Rufus, though I genuinely don't have a problem with healthy competition and I'm quite happy to direct folks, who've been asking to produce a version of Rufus with multiboot for years, to use Ventoy instead), whereas I could certainly use that time to improve my own software . ", same error during creating windows 7 This is also known as file-rolller. When Secure Boot is enabled, BIOS boot (CSM) should not work at all, since it would completely defeat the purpose of only allowing signed executables to boot. P.S. downloaded from: http://old-dos.ru/dl.php?id=15030. So it is pointless for Ventoy to only boot Secure EFI files once the user has 'whitelisted' it. gsrd90 New Member. Although a .efi file with valid signature is not equivalent to a trusted system. Again, it doesn't matter whether you believe it makes sense to have Secure Boot enabled or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s. using the direct ISO download method on MS website. Option 1: Completly by pass the secure boot like the current release. If a user is booting a lot of unsigned bootloaders with Secure Boot enabled, they clearly should disable Secure Boot in their settings, because, for what they are doing, it is pretty much pointless. Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. Already on GitHub? Worked fine for me on my Thinkpad T420. to your account, Hello function gennr(){var n=480678,t=new Date,e=t.getMonth()+1,r=t.getDay(),a=parseFloat("0. we have no ability to boot it unless we disable the secure boot because it is not signed. This means current is MIPS64EL UEFI mode. https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/4/product_build_lists/3250 I'm not talking about CSM. And of course, people expect that if they run UEFIinSecureBoot or similar software, whose goal is explicitly stated as such, it will effectively remove Secure Boot. When secure boot is enabled, only .efi/kernel/drivers need to be signed. Secure Boot was supported from Ventoy 1.0.07, an option for secure boot is added in Ventoy2Disk.exe/Ventoy2Disk.sh. Interestingly enough, the ISO does contain the efi files as I made sure to convert the whole IMG, which on the other hand is the basis for the creation of a memtest flash drive. Reply. I can provide an option in ventoy.json for user who want to bypass secure boot. TPM encryption has historically been independent of Secure Boot. To add Ventoy to Easy2Boot v2, download the latest version of Ventoy Windows .ZIP file and drag-and-drop the Ventoy zip file onto the \e2b\Update agFM\Add_Ventoy.cmd file on the 2nd agFM partition. So, Fedora has shim that loads only Fedoras files. Mybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! ***> wrote: Haven't tried installing it on bare metal, but it does install to a VM with the LabConfig bypasses. https://nyancat.fandom.com/wiki/MEMZ_Nyan_Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s. Have you tried grub mode before loading the ISO? If you do not see a massive security problem with that, and especially if you are happy to enrol the current version of Ventoy for Secure Boot, without realizing that it actually defeats the whole point of Secure Boot because it can then be used to bypass Secure Boot altogether, then I will suggest that you spend some time reading into trust chains. . *lil' bow* Do I still need to display a warning message? In this quick video guide I will show you how to fix the error:No bootfile found for UEFI!Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI!I had this problem on my . Any way to disable UEFI booting capability from Ventoy and only leave legacy? The only way to make Ventoy boot in secure boot is to enroll the key. This filesystem offers better compatibility with Window OS, macOS, and Linux. Ventoy should only allow the execution of Secure Boot signed executables when Secure Boot is enabled, Microsoft's official Secure Boot signing requirements. These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. Posts: 15 Threads: 4 Joined: Apr 2020 Reputation: 0 0 How to make sure that only valid .efi file can be loaded. All the userspace applications don't need to be signed. For instance, it could be that only certain models of PC have this problem with certain specific ISOs. All the .efi/kernel/drivers are not modified. They boot from Ventoy just fine. 1. After installation, simply click the Start Scan button and then press on Repair All. So, Secure Boot is not required for TPM-based encryption to work correctly. However, users have reported issues with Ventoy not working properly and encountering booting issues. I rarely get any problems with other menu systems based on grub2\grub4dos\syslinux\isolinux, just Ventoy gives problems. slax 15.0 boots Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! After install, the 1st larger partition is empty, and no files or directories in it. Again, the major problem I see with this fine discussion is that everybody appears to be tiptoeing around the fact that some users have no clue what Secure Boot is intended for (only that, because it says "Secure" they don't want to turn it off), and, rather than trying to educate them about that, we're trying to find ways to keep them "feeling safe" when the choices they might make would leave their system anything but. As Ventoy itself is not signed with Microsoft key. unsigned kernel still can not be booted. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532. . It gets to the root@archiso ~ # prompt just fine using first boot option. Attached Files Thumbnail (s) Find Reply Steve2926 Senior Member The best workaround is to install some Linux variant (I use Fedora but Ubuntu and SUSE are supported) and install VirtualBox. After the reboot, select Delete MOK and click Continue. Test these ISO files with Vmware firstly. Now Rufus has achieved support for secure boot as now NTFS:UEFI Driver is signed for secure boot by Microsoft. I remember that @adrian15 tried to create a sets of fully trusted chainload chains to be used in Super GRUB2 Disk. Could you please also try via BIOS/Legacy mode? It only causes problems. There are many kinds of WinPE. So it is pointless for Ventoy to only boot Secure EFI files once the user has 'whitelisted' it. Fix them with this tool: If the advices above haven't solved your issue, your PC may experience deeper Windows problems. But that not means they trust all the distros booted by Ventoy. Just right-click on "This PC" on the desktop, select "Manage", and click on "Disk Management . So thanks a ton, @steve6375! Already have an account? UEFI Secure Boot (SB) is a verification mechanism for ensuring that code launched by a computer's UEFI firmware is trusted. Secure Boot is supported since Ventoy-1.0.07, please use the latest version and see the Notes. @pbatard Getting the same error with Arch Linux. 3. /s. No bootfile found for UEFI! unsigned .efi file still can not be chainloaded. Reboot your computer and select ventoy-delete-key-1.-iso. Well occasionally send you account related emails. The point is that if a user whitelists Ventoy using MokManager, they are responsible for anything that they then subsequently run using Ventoy. only ventoy give error "No bootfile found for UEFI! Another issue about Porteus and Aporteus : if we copy ISO via dd or other tools or copy ISO contents to EFI partition of USB work perfectly in UEFI. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that, if you have a Secure Boot capable system, then firmware manufacturers might add a condition that you can only use TPM-based encryption if you also have Secure Boot enabled, as this can help reduce attack vectors against the TPM (by preventing execution of arbitrary code at the early UEFI boot stage, which may make poking around the TPM easier if it has a vulnerability). It means that the secure boot solution doesn't work with your machine, so you need to turn off the option, and disable secure boot in the BIOS. The only thing that changed is that the " No bootfile found for UEFI!" Please thoroughly test the archive and give your feedback, what works and what don't. Ventoy can boot any wim file and inject any user code into it. I'll fix it. Ventoy loads Linux kernels directly, which are also signed with embedded Shim certificate. If so, please include aflag to stop this check from happening! what is the working solution? Users enabled Secure Boot to be warned if a boot loader fails Secure Boot validation, regardless of where that bootloader is executed from. The live folder is similar to Debian live. Yes, anybody can make a UEFI bootloader that chain loads unsigned bootloaders with the express purpose of defeating Secure Boot. Getting the same error as @rderooy. Thanks a lot. I don't remember if the shortcut is ctrl i or ctrl r for grub mode. my pleasure and gladly happen :) Open net installer iso using archive manager in Debian (pre-existing system). DSAService.exe (Intel Driver & Support Assistant). Same issue with 1.0.09b1. Maybe I can get Ventoy's grub signed with MS key. if this issue was addressed), it could probably be Secure Boot signed, in the same manner as UEFI:NTFS was itself Secure Boot signed. So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. All of these security things are there to mitigate risks. I have a solution for this. No bootfile found for UEFI! You can press left or right arrow keys to scroll the menu. Asks for full pathname of shell. 22H2 works on Ventoy 1.0.80. openSUSE-Tumbleweed-XFCE-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20200402-Media - 925 MB, star-kirk-2.1.0-xfce-amd64-live.iso - 518 MB, Porteus-CINNAMON-v5.0rc1-x86_64.iso - 300 MB When install Ventoy, maybe an option for user to choose. Currently there is only a Secure boot support option for check. also for my friend's at OpenMandriva *waaavvvveee* Option 2 will be the default option. If Secure Boot is enabled, signature validation of any chain loaded, If the signature validation fails (i.e. @pbatard, if that's what what your concern, that could be easily fixed by deleting grubia32.efi and grubx64.efi in /EFI/BOOT, and renaming grubia32_real.efi grubia32.efi, grubx64_real.efi grubx64.efi. if this issue was addressed), it could probably be Secure Boot signed, in the same manner as UEFI:NTFS was itself Secure Boot signed. Tried the same ISOs in Easy2Boot and they worked for me. Users can update Ventoy by installing the latest version or using VentoyU, a Ventoy updater utility. The main annoyance in my view is that it requires 2 points of contact for security updates (per https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review) and that I have some doubts that Microsoft will allow anything but a formal organization with more than a couple of people to become a SHIM provider. @ValdikSS, I'm not seeing much being debated, when the link you point to appears to indicate that pretty much everybody is in agreement that loading unsigned kernels from GRUB, in a Secure Boot environment, is a bug (hence why it was reported as such). Tested on 1.0.77. The MEMZ virus nyan cat as an image file produces a very weird result, It also happens when running Ventoy in QEMU, The MEMZ virus nyan cat as an image file produces a very weird result My guesd is it does not. Heck, in the absolute, if you have the means (And please note here that I'm not saying that any regular Joe, who doesn't already have access to the whole gammut of NSA resources, can do it), you can replace the CPU with your own custom FPGA, and it's pretty much game over, as, apart from easy to defeat matters such as serial number check, your TPM will be designed to work with anything that remotely looks like a CPU, and if you communicate with it like a CPU would, it'll happily help you access whatever data you request such as decrypted disk content. If I am using Ventoy and I went the trouble of enrolling it for Secure Boot, I don't expect it to suddenly flag any unsigned or UEFI bootloader or bootloader with a broken signature, as bootable in a Secure Boot enabled environment. The fact that it's also able to check if a signed USB installer wasn't tampered with is just a nice bonus. Can you add the exactly iso file size and test environment information? It's the job of Ventoy's custom GRUB to ensure that what is being chainloaded is Secure Boot compliant because that's what users will expect from a trustworthy boot application in a Secure Boot environment. @ventoy used Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk files to disable UEFI file policy, that's the easiest way, but not a 'proper' one. Tested on ASUS K40IN There are two bugs in Ventoy: Unsigned bootloader Linux ISOs or ISOs without UEFI support does not boot with Secure Boot enabled. fdisk: Create a primary partition with partition type EFI (FAT-12/16/32). So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. So the new ISO file can be booted fine in a secure boot enviroment. And IMO, anything that attempts to push the idea that, maybe, allowing silent boot of unsigned bootloaders is not that bad, is actually doing a major disservice to users, as it does weaken the security of their system and, if this is really what a user wants, they can and should disable Secure Boot. The Flex image does not support BIOS\Legacy boot - only UEFI64. same here on ThinkPad x13 as for @rderooy Ventoy is a free and open-source tool used to create bootable USB disks. Error : @FadeMind Okay, I installed linux mint 64 bit on this laptop before. It should be specially noted that, no matter USB drive or local disk, all the data will be lost after install Ventoy, please be very careful.
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